The OC Vector Control District tries to explain themselves
Jared Dever, the Director of Communications for the OC Vector Control District, showed up at tonight’s Santa Ana City Council meeting to explain why his agency tried to spray an insecticide on homes in Santa Ana’s inner city neighborhoods a few weeks ago.
Santa Ana Council Members Michele Martinez and David Benavides spoke up and asked that Dever and the OCVCD learn from this episode. That is because this mosquito spraying decision blew up in everyone’s face.
When we posted about the mosquito spraying, which was announced on a Friday and was supposed to happen the following Monday, the post went viral on Facebook and because I posted the email addresses of the City Council members they each received hundreds of emails from angry residents.
What to do about the proposed Santa Ana Homeless Shelter
Santa Ana Councilman Vince Sarmiento spoke about how badly the County publicized their outreach meeting to residents who live near the site of the proposed Santa Ana Homeless Shelter.
Rob Cook spoke about using the Orange County Building 16 to house the homeless. That building has been vacant for years but has major asbestos issues.
SAUSD Board Member John Palacio showed up to talk about how the school district is not happy about the proposed site of the homeless shelter. He said that the district supports a moratorium on the approval of the site so that parents can voice their concerns. He mentioned traffic, safety and overcrowding.
A property owner named Scott Barnard said he did not get a notice and he wondered how the City or the County would even have his email address – as apparently the notices about the aforementioned public meeting were sent electronically. He found out about the outreach meeting from a tenant.
Steven Monroe, a Property Manager and land owner said that he has been in the city for some 18 years and he suggested that building a homeless shelter would just make things worse for the city.
Heather Johnson, from the ACLU’s Dignity for All project, showed up to say that the ACLU opposes the emergency moratorium, saying it was unlawful. She said it would violate the city’s obligations under SB2 and the city’s onus to provide housing for the homeless. She said SB2 says shelters can be built despite neighborhood opposition. She said the Council’s willingness to consider a moratorium presents a threat to public safety. She said that the use of the local Armory and the Salvation Army have presented no community problems posed by the homeless.
She suggested a resolution that would encourage a “good neighbor” policy, whatever that means.
Alicia Rojas, who lives in Huntington Beach, seconded what Johnson said. She wondered if a moratorium is legal with the building in escrow and she reminded the City Council that they already voted to approve the site in question.
She said that the opposition is stereotyping the homeless and that this is discrimination. She also suggested a check-in center in Downtown Santa Ana. Then she went off on the Mayor for maintaining decorum at the last City Council meeting.
The owner of Charlie’s Burgers said that the homeless break into his restroom and that he has to clean up their urine and fecal matter daily – and he has all this on video. He said the homeless pester his clients all day long. He said a homeless guy took a kid’s food and another homeless guy grabbed his private parts while hitting on a little girl. He said none of this is generalizations as he has all this on videotape.
He said that homeless people have been seen having sex right by local schools. He said has been attacked by homeless people with sticks and knives. He acknowledged he is not a politician, he is a burger guy but his lease is up and if the homeless shelter goes up he is leaving as they are “bad for business.”
This is a man who helps the local school kids – and he is disgusted at what they have to see with regard to drugged out homeless people. How, he asked, can we put up a homeless shelter in the middle of four thousand kids.
Supervisor John Moorlach said he bought his first home in Santa Ana and that he was in our City Council chambers when the City Council tried to get rid of a local charity that helps the homeless. He said he gets to live every day the problems with homeless people defecating and making a mess as his office is in Downtown Santa Ana.
Moorlach mentioned the St. Vincent de Paul center in Phoenix, AZ, which has successfully dealt with the homeless problem.
He said that the homeless have been here in Santa Ana for his entire adult life. He suggested we need to do something. He recommends that we work together closely with regard to the location on Normandy, and also suggested that the attitude is we have to do it somewhere, but not here. He requested that we dialogue where that should be. He reminded the City Council about the bus shelter site that has been suggested before. Councilwoman Michele Martinez liked that idea.
One of the parents who spoke thanked Martinez for originally voting against putting the homeless shelter at the Normandy site and she noted that the next public community meeting about this subject is set for Oct. 28 at Century High School.
A fellow named Jose who is on the committee for environmental justice that is opposing the homeless shelter presented some 400 signatures of folks opposed to the Normandy site and he mentioned that the Supervisors have not been helpful – in particular he called out Supervisor Janet Nguyen, and said she has effectively turned her back on Santa Ana.
RSCCD Trustee Jose Solorio, who is running for the 34th State Senate District against Nguyen, also showed up and spoke in support of the moratorium.
Sarmiento explained that the City Council approved a zoned area but he said the County did not tell the Council exactly where the site was going to be until July. He asked the City Council to request interagency communication and coordination and he also asked the them to consider a 45 day moratorium to work with the Supervisors and to engage the homeless community and the neighbors in the community. Pulido seconded the motion.
Sarmiento reminded the City Council that the County could overturn the City Council’s decision but the City Attorney said that while the County can preempt the City’s local ordinances and zoning codes but they must comply with federal environmental laws. She said the City Council’s action would be symbolic.
Martinez said that when the Council was first looking at this issue and the abandoned OCTA bus shelter was considered the previous city administration immediately “excluded that site.” She said that the site should have been considered.
Mayor Pro Tem Sal Tinajero said that when looking at the homeless we only look at the ones who cause “the damage.” He said that these individuals at one time had a home. He said that those who have lost their homes are in a very difficult decision and that they include folks with mental illness. Why are we surprised, he said, when these people commit crimes? He mentioned the sunshine ordinance and admitted that there was a breakdown in communication and said that they should have shared with the supervisors about how we do business in Santa Ana. He suggested that in the next 45 days we come up with a solution – a place for the homeless to rest their heads knowing that they are safe and can receive services they need.
State Senator Lou Correa showed up and said he has been working on mental health issues in Sacramento for over a dozen years. He said when he was a Supervisor he remembers that the City of Santa Ana was going to cite and prohibit the religious vans from feeding the homeless. He said that he told them this would happen over his dead body. What happens when you have hungry homeless, he said the outcome is pretty obvious and it is not good. Correa said he supports the Council in coming up with a 45 day moratorium and said we should let the community express their perspective. He reminded everyone that his wife was attacked a year and a half ago and the criminal who did it was not homeless but everyone assumed he was.
Correa said how do we fix the problem. And he reminded the Council that Santa Ana is the seat of County government and he urged everyone to move forward with a solution.
Council Members Angie Amezcua and Roman Reyna said they would vote for the motion too.
Pulido closed by reminding us that we need to look at the rest of the First District including Garden Grove and Westminster and he wondered why we did not look at those cities. Why he said are we only looking at Santa Ana? He also noted that Moorlach is leaving the OC Board of Supervisors in 60 days and he hopes his replacement will be as engaged in the issue of the homeless as Moorlach has been.
The motion carried unanimously.
Then a creepy guy interrupted the meeting and demanded to be heard but Pulido reminded him that it was not time for public comments – then he asked Martinez to take over and she made the presentation honoring Correa, who is terming out this year. His is the State Senate seat that Nguyen and Solorio are fighting over (note that Nguyen was MIA tonight).
Correa said that Governor Brown is signing his Santa Ana River Conservancy bill – creating a 120 mile long “river of life.”
Correa said he is not going anywhere, he will continue to live in Central Orange County and he will continue to work to make sure people are heard loudly and clearly.
So what happened to the FTP ding dongs?
The City of Santa Ana took my advice. They searched them and kept them outside – where they were provided with a screen to see the meeting and a podium where they could lose their minds in public.
Here is the crowd getting searched.
Here is the outdoor screen and a group of FTP protestors including DTSA artist Theo Hirsch.
And here is one more shot of Theo and a friend of his:
The good news is folks seemed to behave themselves, the world didn’t come to an end, and our City Council conducted a very useful meeting with at least one very important outcome – the moratorium on the Normandy Street Homeless Shelter.
The meeting is still going on by the way but I am wrapping this up. Click here to see the meeting as it streams online.
35 thoughts on “Recap of tonight’s Santa Ana City Council meeting – mosquitoes, homeless and Lou Correa”
They have resorted to searching citizens going to a city council meeting?
Perhaps you forgot that a knife was found after the last meeting.
Someone had a knife last night, security made him leave it outside.
Wow. Glad the police were searching them!
Thanks for the blow by blow. My FB feed was getting full with reports, it’s nice to hear what actually went on inside.
Sad day for the people of Santa Ana. Once again we missed a transformative opportunity to change ourselves as we care for the Poor, empathize with their suffering, and defending their, and our, minimum living standards when needed.
This community just got played. At the end of these 45 days, after some community circle-jerking, the powers will decide that this was actually the best plan of all. And according to the County’s timeline on the project, this moratorium won’t affect the opening in the least. After 20 years, we can wait a few more days.
They crucified the Poor for votes! Pretty shameful, but it is an election season.
May God help if you become poor in OC.
Classy bunch with the FTP t-shirts.
Scew the chumps with the FTP hats!!!
Based on this post, I now have second hand information that John Palacio spends , at least, some time in Santa Ana and actually owns a coat and ……perhaps an elusive tie? He really isnt articulate and speaks like he has marbles in his mouth….
They did the right thing with the Moratorium. Like The attorney said, if a Walmart were being proposed in the area, then they would have had to abide by environmental impact reports etc.
and what is the state regulation referred to many times? SEQA??
Pulido didn’t apologize for violating the FTP hat guy’s civil rights????? … what a dick!
Yes the guy in the hat was a d*ick.
Editor says: “So what happened to the FTP ding dongs? The City of Santa Ana … searched them and kept them outside.”
Really?? … If the City actually did that they violated Federal and State laws.
My favorite moment was when they were jumping around behind a guy who was speaking outside at the podium about the homeless. He shooed them off.
The room was full, as people left they let more in. A lot of protesters left when the news media left.
There you go. They’re just looking for attention.
“During a staffer’s presentation, over 30 activists paraded into the council chambers — many holding paper sunflowers to represent the city’s government sunshine ordinance — and massed behind a short wall separating the council dais from the public area of the room.
Another resident sitting in the front row shouted for city officials to have the activists moved back because his line of sight was blocked. The activists, some of them young students, refused, and began yelling demands to be heard.
“This is our city Pulido!” one activist shouted. “We have a right to speak!”
That doesn’t sound like “without a hitch” to me.
Most of these anarchists don’t live here.
So let’s see, you have three or four internet blogs, who champion the plight of agitators, yet these “bloggers and their cheerleaders come from: Huntington Beach, Irvine, Brea, Long Beach and even the Dean Of UCI chimes in from his Perch in Laguna Beach. Now, I don’t know what connection these folks have with the working class residents of Santa Ana, but I know one thing: Diamond, Chmeliwinski, Chemerinski, Mrs. Galvin, Prevatt and company don’t want the homeless in their fancy suburbs or gentrified neighborhoods.
This is absolute Drama.
carpetbagger: “I don’t know what connection these folks have with the working class residents of Santa Ana ..”
That would be the free speech protections of the US Constitution carpetbagger.
I seem to recall Mike that you went bananas when they tried to open a Buffalo Wild Wings by your house. I can’t imagine how nuts you would go if they put a homeless shelter by your neighborhood.
How about a homeless shelter at Santiago Park Editor?
The City won’t put a dog park there so I doubt they’ll put a shelter but considering how many homeless guys hang out there already perhaps it can be considered a de facto shelter?
You know as well as I this whole charade has little to do with free speech. If people were so concerned about the laws and protections provided by the constitution we would not have the crime problem we do, nor the influx of aliens.
Ironically when Muslim students at Chemerinsky’s school (UCI) spoke out the Jew Terrorist, he wasn’t crying FREE SPEECH, they had them arrested.
“You know as well as I this whole charade has little to do with free speech.”
You’re right carpetbagger – it has to do with the pinche cabrone mayor deflecting attention from his criminal activities.
Nothing but BS. But the pictures of Reyna with gang bangers cost him two more law enforcement endorsements this week.
I don’t speak Spanish, so I don’t know what you mean. But, I do know Santa Ana has THREE unemployed councilmembers and another who doesn’t even live here.
From the VOC: “Councilman Vincent Sarmiento went so far as to apologize for the previous meeting ..”
Thank you Councilman Sarmiento for doing the right thing – the thing the Mayor should have done.
Sarmiento also had to apologize for voting to put a homeless shelter in the middle of a neighborhood in his ward.
You have to laugh at Sarmiento. He never leads and puts his fingers in the air before he acts. He sat back and supported the cops last week. This week he’s for free speech and the rights of FTP. He will never stick his neck out which is why he almost lost last elevtion to a woman who was invisible.
Good point. He is spineless and stands for nothing and I don’t think he even lives here.
all too true …. he is a squirrel ..
Vince is talented when compared to the others dunces like David, Roman, Angie et al. But Vince is a politician in the worst sense of the word. You feel dirty after talking to him. With David and Roman, you just feel pure pity.
Santa Ana is broken. I grew up in Santa Ana and i honestly can say i’m not proud to be from here. I honestly feel like the board is doing nothing i didn’t even know Santa Ana had a mayor like honestly living in barios (i don’t know if i spelled it right) my whole life and moving from home to home Santa Ana is not a place i’m gonna raise my kids in. You won’t believe how easy it is for people to get high or drunk in school or get illegal things in this city. I went to Jerome park (A.K.A. Cesar Chavez park) to look at the community garden and some guy came up to me and said “are you the guy who wanted to buy crack?” i said no obviously then 10 minutes later some guy hits me up and says “what hood you claim homie!?” i just said “i don’t claim anything i’m just a guy trying to enjoy the garden and if you want i’ll leave if this is your hood”. This is the very same park where a child was sexually assaulted in the restroom. I’m not even safe in a community garden! I feel like the board is doing nothing to my city. Like they care more about wealth than the community’s safety and health. It’s more than just a job, it’s the future of Santa Ana. I know i might get hate for this but growing up being threatened by a police officer saying he’ll arrest my brothers and i for sitting in a car for being as he said “dirty mexicans” and another occasion where a cop saw me and a couple friends play soccer with a can we found cause we were bored he looked at us and we heard him say “poor wetbacks” i never liked the police and i know there is good cops out there but FTP!
R.I.P. Richard Gene Swihart