SANTA ANA, CA (February 3, 2012) – Over the next year, the City of Santa Ana will be working closely with residents to update the General Plan Circulation Element and develop “Complete Street” policies.
Attend one of the upcoming community Open Houses and share your ideas and suggestions for:
• Reducing traffic congestion
• Improving traffic flow
• Getting around on your bike or walking
• Making Santa Ana streets safer for all
• Community related challenges and opportunities
Join us and TELL US WHAT YOU THINK.
Wednesday, February 8, 2012, 4:00 pm – 7:00 pm
Santa Ana Senior Center, 424 W. 3rd Street, Santa Ana.
Includes an optional guided walking tour of the area from 5:00pm to 6:00pm.
Saturday, February 11, 2012, 10:00 am – 12:00 pm
Southwest Senior Center, 2201 W. McFadden Avenue, Santa Ana.
Includes an optional 4 mile guided tour by bicycle from 9:00-11:00am. You are required to bring your own bicycle and helmet to participate in this ride. Parents, activities for young children will be provided during the Open House.
The City’s Circulation Element – a citywide guide for transportation — focuses on roadways and other transportation modes including public transit, railroads, pedestrian and bicycle paths that provide a full range of travel options designed to benefit all Santa Ana residents.
To learn more about this community effort or to share your ideas please visit www.santa-ana.org/
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Get Involved and Stay in Touch
The public Open Houses are planned for the community to participate in shaping the City’s General Plan Circulation Element and Complete Streets plan. You are also invited to share your ideas, ask questions or sign up to receive future updates by sending an e-mail to SantaAnaInMotion@santa-ana.org or calling (714) 667-2792.
Past Meetings
Complete Street Workshop – Laying the Foundation for Complete Streets
Monday, November 7, 2011
Santiago Lawn Bowling Center
501 East Memory Lane
Should be interesting.
I was looking at the current bike route plan that places class II bike lane on the busiest streets in Santa Ana, like 17th, Grand, Flower, etc.
Doesn’t make sense, having bikes share lanes with 40 thousand pound trucks, big busses, SUV’s and all kinds of auto’s.
Public safety should be first priority and auto speed and convenience should be the last and lowest priority.
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER
Since Jan. 1, 2011, a state law known as AB1358, or the Complete Streets Act, has required California cities to plan for “complete streets” when updating their General Plan,
A consultant hired by the city is drafting a Bicycle and Pedestrian Master Plan to go with the new General Plan,
The General Plan process has raised the idea of upgrading to a concrete flood-control channel to become a bicycle and pedestrian route …. to “fully integrate” the bike/pedestrian plan into the General Plan. That could come as early as August.
a bicyclist and member of the General Plan Advisory Committee, noted that a telephone survey the city took before undertaking the new General Plan showed 90 percent support for bicycle and pedestrian enhancements.
“When do 90 percent of people agree on anything?”
Responses to telephone surveys are a lot about the phrasing of the question…IMO would not be all that uncommon to get 90% support on a question such as “do you think it is positive to have nice even sidewalks” as opposed to “would you support tearing out and replacing the current sidewalks which have some uneven seems and cracks at a cost of $XX, which you will end up paying for one way or another, and which will also mean there will be weeks of loud noise, construction activity, and heavy equipment in your neighborhood”. Both would in general seek whether they support enhancements yet one supplies more facts than the other and would likely get to drastically different favor ratings.
I also imagine that 90% of people think that taxes should be fair, but what does “fair” mean? It is all in the details.
Hopefully that makes sense.
Serious question for Bruce, Mark, or anyone else with Neighbors for Santiago Creek Bike Trail- I received a colored flyer today and it says very clearly and boldlly NO CONCRETE. Does this mean it will be a dirt trail or are you pushing for an asphalt trail? If asphalt, in the grand scheme is concrete bad and asphalt good? If by no concrete you mean asphalt instead I feel like that is deceiving. Maybe there is some big difference that I don’t know about. Thanks.
TJlocalSA, does it matter? a reddish dye can be added to concrete to make it look like dirt or a green dye can be used to keep it green.
Cook, for sure it matters. Those who are in favor of the trail are saying NO CONCRETE (they used caps, so I will also)…I am curious, if that means they want a dirt trail or if they want an asphalt one. They made the big deal about it being not concrete, I just want to know what that means.
Concrete: Made with Portland cement is common for bridges and retaining walls that need strength and durability.
Asphalt: Asphalt concrete generally made for road surfaces.
Asphalt concrete pavements are often called just “asphalt” by laypersons who tend to associate the term concrete with Portland cement concrete only.
The pro-trail people expect the trail to be built with asphalt like most of trails already built.
I expect when a plan is hammered out, the Portland cement concrete will be used because on the need to build strong retaining walls at the homeowners property line and another on the creek side of channel to anchor the foundation and keep the flood waters at bay.
man you guys are spoiled or on that side of Santa Ana
why dont the bike trails in delhi get special attention like this …
Will there be security along these bikeways? You cant keep the River Trail safe for cyclists, how will you manage the rest of the city’s bikeways.
Thanks Cook for the clarification…I just find it deceiving that the flyer is touting NO CONCRETE which upon my first read was interpreted by me as unpaved. Notice that they did not say, asphalt but instead NO CONCRETE- this seems to be intentionally deceitful in my book.
I just wish we could all get to a baseline of what the true facts are- this goes for both sides. Hopefully the future meetings will help everyone get there.
I agree after reviewing everything that if the trail were to be implemented according to the pro-bike trail crowd, that it would be paved with asphalt but then there will be significant amount of concrete used for retaining walls and other sorts of stabilizing structure.
I do find it ironic that in my jog through the trail last weekend that there were more families enjoying Fisher Park than Santiago Park (not sure if that is the right name), although that definitely could just be a timing issue. The dirt path is a good path except for the larger rocks towards the freeway intersection. The paved section definitely has its share of trash and graffiti too.
They had plenty of people there, six stations where peoples opinions and information could be written on the 5 areas, Walking, Biking, Auto, Busses, Trains.
About twelve people took the walking tour. The walking tour was more like a work – study session, there was a 5 page work book with 5 stops on the route to address 5 question of 1 to 5 (good to bad) 2 essay type questions and 1 question with a tiny map of the area.
As expected the biking station had a lot of activity.
If you are planning to go this Saturday and want you opinion to be heard, take the bike tour.
Thanks for the update Cook…wish I could go to one of these, but the schedule does not allow. Hopefully they get some good feedback.