Updated: Why do we know so little about the attack on a young woman at The Crosby?

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• We were at the Crosby when the incident happened. One of our friends is a doctor and wanted to help the poor girl but the bouncer refused to let him leave the restaurant to help.

  • Thanks for that report. That quick medical care could have made a difference. If she survives she could have permanent brain damage.

  • Refused to let him? Push the bouncer out of the way and go help her! What a bunch of weaklings everyone who didn't help this girl are! I hope the family sues the nightclub! The bouncers couldn't help the girl but were somehow super human enough to physically prevent a doctor from going to aid her! Okay...

    • Complete agree!! Everyone who stood and watched are spineless and should be ashamed of themselves!

• I am seeing posts on my Instagram reaching out for information from her friends and family, she does appear to be asian

  • Thanks. That's more info than what the SAPD has revealed.

    • I uploaded the image that is going around my Instagram here: http://imgur.com/MItGCfc

      • My daughter is the same age as this unfortunate young lady. I pray that she will recover.

  • Her name is Kim Pham, she is Vietnamese.

    • Thanks Kamila. May she rest in peace. Now it is time for the community and the police to start asking the hard questions - beginning with - was she targeted because of her race?

      • I believe it was in the family's best interest that you do not reveal her full name.

        • They did not contact us. This will be all over the mainstream press by tomorrow. And it was one of our readers who informed us abiut her name.

        • She was targeted because she was the one that instigated the fight.

        • She was actually not the one that instigated the fight, the other girl picked the fight first.

        • I believe that as well.

        • alex -- how do you know she instigated for sure? It seems apparent from witnesses that she accidentally walked the picture these killers were taking. You don't know if she did anything at all. I've been in the situation where I've apologized and then tried my humblest to calm a situation and the people are still trying to get violent with me.

          All I'm saying is: don't say stupid things you know nothing about. It's possible that she did nothing at all except the trivial accident at the start.

• It seems like she passed away. I just walked by there and there's candles and flowers. One of the signs posted says "a life cut too short." :( A lot of things don't add up. Was everyone just standing around watching her get beat up? :(

  • That's terrible! Now the search is on for murderers!

• Editor! How did our relationship begin?
  About 4 years ago when the young asian guy was killed in the downtown parking lot across the street from there.
  What were some of us asking?
  why are there no security cameras in that parking garage? and why haven't there been any installed?
  That is what we were asking, and still ask.
  The city of Santa Ana has blood on their hands for not making the local public and visiting public safer.

  • And even worse - many strings were pulled to allow The Crosby to stay open late. The gentrifiers now have blood on their hands.

    • no strings have to be pulled for some of these property owners to do the right thing and install inexpensive security cameras. UHH HMMM hmm. I will refrain from mentioning property owner names.

    • What exactly is your beef with gentrification? I don't get it. There wasn't anything downtown except dive bars and gang bangers before the gentrification started. You would rather have empty buildings down there? I'm dumbfounded by your hostility towards people intent on making Santa Ana a better place to live.

      • Better how? And for who? Our Downtown is not family friendly and has become useless for most residents.

        And getting rid of bars only to replace them with more bars isn't progress.

        I would much rather have a downtown like the one in Brea, that has entertainment and restaurants that families can enjoy.

        Just who do these overpriced hipster eateries and bars serve?

        Lastly say what you will about years past but young women weren't getting their heads kicked in back then.

        • Have to agree 100% with you. Santa Ana was the first City built in California.You would think being that it was the geographic center point of where it all began and spread outwards to what is now one of the wealthiest states in the world , they go and build more Bars , Clubs ,shaping it into a negative environment . Anyhow I hope it wasn't a racial incident. I'm mexican and most of my close friends are asian. What I don't understand is wtf didnt anybody back her up. I probably would of lost my life if I was there cuz I would of helped fight back especially if the victim was a female regardless of ethnicity! Its human instinct to react when a persons life is in danger. To all men and woman who were there , you guys are all guilty and to blame for. Fkn cowards!!!

        • They serve me and my family for starters. My wife and I spent $400k+ on a cottage in Washington Square last fall, largely because of downtowns vibrant restaurant and art scene. Downtown Breis horrendous, a bland clone of places like the Spectrum or the Tustin Marketplace, no soul or character at all.

        • Well be careful who you bump into next time you visit DTSA.

        • Al - West Floral Park, Washington Square and to a lesser extent are filled with people like you and your wife, leaving the bland evirons of Irvine and Mission Viejo for a "charming cottage" and a vibrant downtown. Only o find out months and years later that it's not so vibrant, not so easy to get mushrooms or parsley (epasote is a snap though), it is nearly impossible to educate the kids in your neighborhood unless you go private.

          You think it's safe until you leave the bubble of Louise Street (or wherever) to find your little experiment in culture isn't really that fun. But, your not so hip friends will think you are cool.

          "Be part of the solution, not the problem"

        • It's perfectly fine here, I spend as much time at El Tapatia and Northgate as I do at Chapter 1. Santa Ana will be as expensive and attractive as Old Town Orange. I didn't spend that much on a house unless I was sure it would be worth twice as much in 20 years.

        • Santa Ana has the highest property taxes as our residents keep passing bond measures. And we have the highest water and power rates. Our public schools are mostly a mess and crime is growing. There are positives too but the negatives are legion.

        • All I know is that for the price of a 3rd floor condo in Aliso Viejo, one that came with a $300 HOA fee, I got a detached house with a 6000 yard. My truck was vandalized in the parking lot of my previous apartment in Aliso Viejo, and there was an attempted murder in the parking lot of the Town Center. What ever might be wrong with Santa Ana, I'll take it, not to live with the pretentious, privileged, plastic-surgeried yuppies of South OC. I'll take a dollar taqueria any day of the week compared to On The Border or Macaroni Grill. Thanks to the Duolingo App, I learn Spanish on my work breaks.

• This could have happened at any bar, restaurant, art gallery anywhere in Downtown.
  But public safety is not a priority for the political set and the business set Downtown. Everybody just wants to party. including the tourists, visitors.

  • Well now they better all wake up!

• This is a "vibrant" downtown?

  Sounds down right dangerous to me!

  • I just told my daughter to stay away from there.

    • Hahaha. She got into a fight. It's not like she was randomly attacked.

      • Dumbass,she was attacked by 2 putos and 3 girls..And I'm Chicano,gives us a bad name...

        • Agree & well said

        • Big time brotha I agree ,,,, gives us a bad reputation. But lets not forget that there is a big difference between an "ignorant wab " like Mr.anti cholo with his stuupid comments and there's mexicans who got mad luv for asian peeps. On behalf of my ethnic race words cannot express my apologies for this tragic loss of life My condolences go out to the family.

      • Not a fight jumped ATTACKED It took 5 people,,,OMG,,,

      • She got jumped by 5 people including two grown men.

• Your daughter can hang out with me Editor. I will protect her!

• FU editor and your hatred for Downtown Santa Ana! It has no place in this story! You are such an evil spirited person. You don't really care about the deceased young woman, you are excited that something horribly tragic happened Downtown so you can continue your years of bashing what is not going anywhere. Get a red sharpie and color your black schriveled up heart and pretend you give a rip about the victim in the story.

  • LOL. We promote events in Downtown Santa Ana all the time so you're barking up the wrong tree. But I'm not letting my kids go there now. Not at night for sure.

    • Right. Even if you did, you still bash DTSA constantly and you still are horrible. Blame yourself for this tragedy. Makes as much sense as blaming Downtown and Downtown security. You are really a horrible person to try and cash in on a tragic death.

      • No one here is cashing in but that is an interesting phrase. Aren't the hipster joints in DTSA cashing in? Well now they are going to have to spend some of that money they have earned on over-priced burgers on actual security measures.

        Oh and then there is this - http://newsantaana.com/2014/01/19/the-crosby-needs-to-answer-for-both-public-and-food-safety-issues/

        • They, the restaurants, have nothing to do with this. You do.

        • How about this? http://newsantaana.com/2014/01/19/the-crosby-needs-to-answer-for-both-public-and-food-safety-issues/

  • The editor is trying to hold the city and the businesses responsible for the safety of the public. How is that something to criticize? The victim was in dtsa wanting to get in a bar/restaurant. Even if she had a role in the fight, the establishment should be held accountable for what happened to her and the city should be criticized for their slow response? Is that not a fair expectation?

    • Addie,

      See my comments below. This train was headed off the rails.

  • Editor is just writing what everyone else is feeling already. Remember we all seek information that promotes our own views. I totally agree with the editor. There is something very inherently wrong with Downtown Santa Ana, and thats because there is a lack of security cameras coupled with unqualified security personnel. An Asian guy by the name of Jeffrey Lee Chung was killed a year ago by a Latino guy. This girl will be the 2nd person murdered. Both asian with Latino attackers. See a pattern?

    • 2 incidents would not be enough to draw any sort of conclusion regarding a pattern of racial violence. Fights will happen regardless of race or location. Or cameras for that matter.

      • Two terrible deaths in 3 years, both involving Asians, is indeed a trend.

      • On one of the video's you can clearly hear the attackers calling her a "GOOK". as they kicked her to death. How is that not a hate crime.

        Where is Greg Diamond?

  • You claim he spews hatred, yet you hide behind a computer with the guise of "anonymous" trying to call him out for not genuinely caring.
    How does an establishment that is going on six years that regularly gets filled maximum capacity not have adequate security or video cameras to prevent and deter incidents like these?

• Why doesn't the mayor come out and speak about this incident or the chief of police

  • The Mayor? What about the Council Member who represents Downtown Santa Ana? Where is Michele Martinez?

    • Where is Michele Martinez? probably at Original Mike's.

    • Apparently doesn't want to upset her Hispanic voters, considering the attackers were also Hispanic.

• Can't take no fault for the mayors failures....and for what he gets paid...

  • He is a part time Mayor. And the Council Members actually make more than he does as they have hogged up all the commission appointments.

    Sure he ought to step up and say something but my point is so should the Council. And where is that overpaid City Manager who is now pulling down $800K a year in pay and pension benefits?