UPDATE: Barely over 20 Occupy protesters marched at the Santa Ana Art Walk on Saturday, according to the OC Weekly. Obviously this is a very small movement…no doubt our Santa Ana City Council will take that into account on Monday night.
“Santa Ana’s City Council on Monday will undertake a discussion of the city’s no-camping ordinances in response to the Occupy OC movement’s wish to establish a long-term presence in the Civic Center,” according to the O.C. Register.
Santa Ana Council Members David Benavides and Michele Martinez put the 85B item on the agenda – forcing the rest of the City Council to consider allowing the Occupy movement to camp out overnight in Downtown Santa Ana.
Is this a good idea? Well, consider what has happened in other communities that have allowed their city centers to be overrun at night by Occupy protesters:
And we want to bring this mess to downtown Santa Ana? No thanks.
I don’t mind these folks protesting during the day, but overnight? No way. We have ordinances against this for a reason. It is a threat to public safety to allow these folks to run amok at night.
And why are they occupying Santa Ana to begin with? This is a Democratic town. We only have two Republicans elected here – Supervisor Janet Nguyen and Councilman Carlos Bustamante. We should be rid of both of them in 2012.
Some of the folks who want to camp out here don’t even live here. Orange Juice blogger Gregg Diamond lives in Brea, where he NEVER complains about the Republicans who run his town. Orange Juice blog editor Vern Nelson lives in Huntington Beach – another Republican town. Why not occupy HB?
Doing this to Santa Ana will hurt the poor. Our city is broke. Forcing us to spend money we don’t have on increased police patrols and overtime is totally asinine. It will force our city to lay off workers and cut even more city services.
“We’re trying to follow the progressive precedence of Irvine,” community organizer Alicia Rojas told the Voice of OC.
Irvine allowed the camping but they don’t have the homeless problem we have. They ought to build a permanent campground for the homeless at the Great Park. They already have a farm there, so they can feed them.
I suspect the Santa Ana City Council will vote on an alternative motion to recognize the Occupy protest for what it is, but there is no way our Council majority is going to allow these people to take over our town at night.
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"Those were not accrued in the time that the current Council has been in charge"....... Hmmmmmm
Sometimes you are really surprising me with your logic.
Did at anytime in the existence of the current Council the Council hired new employes under a different pension program which would not create $25 million deficit in the years ahead?
Did at anytime in the existence of the current Council the Council actually rewritten the alleged Republican majorities pension plans during renewal of union contracts?
If so tell me when?
Also when was the council 4 Republicans v. 3 Democrats the voting republican majority.
According to Voice of OC there are 800 employes making over 100K and Paul Walters is openly spiking his pension to 500K per year. I recall that around 2004 he retired, was collecting pension and was working, doing double dipping.
That was done under the current Council.
Even if you would be correct there is somewhere between 5M to 10M additional deficit created by current council.
There is also degrading of Cities bonds to Beta starting about 2004. Did current council done anything to maintain bonds at AAA?
The problem is the current council!
It did not taken appropriate action when it should.
Read your own Old OJB posts to understand how wrong you are.
Hey Pork Chop (AKA Greg Diamond),
It is clear that you are ignoring our repeated requests for you to explain that how, as a JEW, it's OK for DanC. and the Liberal OC blog to make fun of our religion.
We all guessed that you were just another hired gun, and now you have proved that.
So are you just ignoring the issue?
Are you afraid of offending your friends.
Either way you and they are looking pretty two faced.
Plus ++ you look like a pretty big pussy and phony for not standing up.
A proper resonse could have been:
"I know Dan and like him, his unfortunate choice of words doesn't affect our friendship, but I disagree and am disapointed that he used these words". PERIOD.
But you are a silly FAKE liberal, using your religion as a shield.
YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO YOUR FAMILY, YOUR RELIGION AND YOUR PARTY!
Wow.
Thats to the point.
And pretty hard to argue, Greg Diamond.
Where are you on this?
My advice: Since you are a newcomer to OC politics (blogging) take his. Put it to rest.
You a**holes make accusations that are way out of proportion. What? - they pointed out ethnic food preferences in a joking manner - BFD. You look like and are idiots.
Kudos to the only REAL progressives on the Council, Benavides and Martinez.
Sarmiento is also a progressive. But he knows how dangerous it would be to unleash a bunch of anarchists in our downtown at night.
"I don’t come here that often either"...... Hmmmm
Keep it that way Diamond!
We do not need racist-hating-agitators here.
Better yet, do not come here what so ever!
We at occupy OC are committed to to stoping the atrocities of coprprate America, the 1% and the Republicans.
WE ARE COMMITTED!
unless of course it rains alttle and themp drops below 62! Then it's right back to Brea! Where none of those icky homeless live!
Admin,
Are you gone do life reporting?
I will comment on the issue in the chamber.
That is a good idea! We'll do it.
After the city council discuss the merits of allowing camping at the county civic center and discards it.
Will the occupiers go home happy, to sleep in they warm beds, out of the rain and the smell of the unwashed homeless?
I think they will be very happy to be let off the hook, and be able to blame the evil council at the same time. It is a win - win situation.
cook,
Please study the word Renaissance!
Historically, old people hate Renaissance except for me in my age of 66, which is 10 years more than your age, I believe in reincarnation and rebirth.
In contrast Pulido/Walters duet have no choice because every drop of the blood spilled in Santa Ana will be instantly known around the world this time.
So let them trample a mother in front of 18 mo old child by their horses.... if thy dare.
In 1968 Prague Spring uprising (aka Velvet Revolution) I have seen local police chief jumping from the window for a fear of the fear itself.
There were less than 25 of these yahoos at the Art Walk yesterday. This is no revolution. Just a bunch of nutty wankers.