Does another club fight signal the start of a race war in Orange County?

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• Most everyone in O.C. leaves whichever Club they go to,at 11:30 to avoid insane or drugged out Freaks.

• Man, too much violence. For what?

• Here is another testimony from eyewitnesses that indicates Pham was the one whose selfie was interrupted and that she initiated and aggravated the conflict with the Latinas, who were trying to leave.

  The writer says: "I repeat, RACE, ETHNICITY, OR GENDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INCIDENT."

  Below is the account of events that was also communicated to police by the eyewitnesses:

  "the night of January 17, 2014, I was at The Crosby along with family and friends celebrating my older brother's birthday. What unfolded outside of the club happened while my brother and I were having a "buzzed" conversation in the restroom; and because of this, all I was able to recap was seeing people standing in the bar stools, and crowding to the windows as I came out of the restroom. However, because of our celebration and the fact that The Crosby is a small bar, I had family and friends waiting outside when the altercation occurred who witnessed and have already come forward and done their part in the investigation to bring justice. It is through their eyes that I give you what actually ensued that night.

  Now, to the real story of what unfolded the night of the brawl. Because of the high volume of people inside the bar that night, there was a long line waiting to get in (including my family and friends). It was in that madness of having to wait with people a bit restless that an accidental "bump" of the shoulder occurred between the victim and one of the females that was part of the five individuals who are being charged. (The same "bump" that I have seen many great and intellectual individuals: black, Latino, white, or Asian not think twice about and make the poor decision of fighting). The bump occurred while the victim and her group of friends were taking pictures.

  The group of five individuals started walking away when the victim went after the woman who bumped into her and started arguing. It was not till a friend of the latino woman arguing came to separate the argument that the first punch was thrown by the victim inflicting the girl who was trying to separate the argument. A fight between those two women then ensued but were shortly separated. As the accused woman grabbed her things and was walking away, the victim again got away from her group and chased after her to continue the fight. As soon as that happened, the victim and the accused woman who initiated the first fight with the victim retaliated and then a brawl ensued with both groups.

  Unfortunately, one of the groups happened to be Asian and the other group Latino (and that is why they are making it a racial thing). During that brawl is when the victim was knocked unconscious and got kicked and trampled in the melee. I do not need to go into how low and savage-like that is of someone to kick or continue to inflict damage when someone is unable to protect themselves anymore. That is about the lowest thing anyone can do; and it is those individuals who deserve all if not most of the punishment in this unfortunate incident.

  Regardless of how and what occurred, no one deserves to get their life taken away in any fashion. My main purpose in writing this is to get justice for the victim and hope that all involved get what they deserve. The underlying facts that I want to abolish are the ones that are making this out to be a hate crime just because the media needs a villain to attract more attention to the unfortunate incident.

  I repeat, RACE, ETHNICITY, OR GENDER HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE INCIDENT.

  Why the media is shaping it that way makes me sick. Almost as sick as all the ignorant individuals or are so quick to judge. And, the witnesses who are supporting that, shame on you. The victim was a very smart and beautiful woman inside and out who inspired many. It is through her words that I want to reiterate the importance of making a difference for the people of tomorrow to live in a better United States and add to the platform that great minds like Martin Luther King Jr, Cesar Chavez, and now Miss Pham have set, for us to keep taking steps forward. No matter your race, ethnicity, or gender, we are all Americans. We need to stick together to not bring anymore negativity to our great nation. Plant the seed you want your kids and their kids to prosper from.

  http://mymindismyweapon.blogspot.com/

  • Oh yeah--sounds good--except... that this sounds like TOTAL BULLSHIT.

    Hmm, such peace-loving people who tried to leave then kicked the shit out of the girl 5 to 1 then right?? Seriously, you need to take a step back and hear yourself being ridiculous. Yeah, if your 'friends and family' outside were so peace-loving that they killed this girl violently SOON AFTER.

    Come now.....

    • If you can read, which I seriously doubt, he says he had family outside who gave their account to police. If you choose not to believe the truth, then you are just creating racial conflict for the sake of sport, which will only promote other people getting hurt. And the fight was more like 20 Asians against 5 Latinos, only three of which were involved with Pham. Seriously, pull your head out and wipe the crap from your eyes, you'll see things more clearly.

      • So how many of those poor Latino victims had their heads kicked in?

        • Are you suggesting if a Latino had also been killed in this fight it would somehow even the score? I certainly hope not. I'm not saying anybody should have been hurt at all, just that the facts of this case indicate a fight between Pham's crew and three local women. Not 5 against 1, as RR is saying. Fanning blatant falsehoods is only going to get innocent people hurt. Santa Ana PD have two suspects in custody. Have there been any arrests in the Sutra club attack in Costa Mesa, where 6 Asian men savagely beat 3 people, two of which required hospitalization?

  • The guy was in the SHITHOUSE with his brother (who takes his brother to the bathroom????) but he claims to be a witness.

    This kid needs to head back to UCI and take a remedial English class.

    THIS IS HEARSAY. Complete bullshit

    • Couldn't have said it better myself... I was in a hurry, but I also noticed the lovely, 'well, my friend who talked to another guy who talked to his friend said', idiotic bullshit. Good catch.

      • He had family members outside who reported their account to the police. Sounds pretty eyewitnessy to me. And where are the Asian eyewitness reports? Seems pretty odd that 20 people who also saw what happened are clamming up. The facts are coming out, it's just a shame that racist OC jerks and Breaking Bad extras who work for DTI will choose to believe their own BS.

        And if you want some white crime news in OC to compare this with, we have:

        William L. Buchman, the Santa Ana schoolteacher who was arrested for having hundreds of snakes, including dead ones, lying around his rat-infested house.

        http://newsantaana.com/2014/01/29/snakeman-william-buchman-booked-into-sapd-jail-for-animal-cruelty/

        and Zachary Joshua Reeder, the former Servite schoolteacher who was convicted for lewd acts with children and posing as a girl on the internet to get nude pictures of boys.

        http://orangecountyda.com/home/index.asp?page=8&recordid=3855&returnurl=index%2Easp%3Fpage%3D8

        Stone cold sick ass mofos. Stop race baiting and take care of businesses with your own people.

        • LOL! Way to stop race baiting - your whole comment is about race!

          You're clearly an apologist for the murderers.

• The weight of a third party telling of a story by an unnamed eye witness that can’t be cross examined is zero.

  That is why we have courts to settle the question.

• Where are Benavides and Martinez?

  • The victims were muslims i know two of them.

• So the Register and OC Wrekly sre reporting the Crosby will be closing down for good.

  No doubt undrr pressure from Irv Chase who wants to keep up the fallacy that Downtown is safe.

  Still no word from Michele????

• This is not just a case of drunkards gone wild! These women who did this to Kim all carried a 'chip' on their shoulders and I think it would be prudent to explore what that 'chip' could be!

  • Good question Marie.

    I am sure the shrinks at Chowchilla will have plenty of time to discuss this with Ms. Zavala, a single Mother, employed as an office clerk with a GED from Valley High.
    I wonder what's in store for Jr. her five year old son, who will likely end up a ward of the state like his Mami. Great Leading by Example Nessa!

    Maybe her sisters would like to join in her and defend her? I doubt it though.