How silly. The O.C. Register, the Voice of OC and that annoying fake liberal blog all lost their minds wondering if it was legal for Santa Ana Mayor Pro Tem Claudia Alvarez to vote for an alternative motion that resulted in her censure, but avoided the far worse fate that Council Members David Benavides and Carlos Bustamante had in mind for her.
Ironically, the Voice of OC’s open government expert, Terry Francke, says there was nothing illegal or unethical about Alvarez’s vote. This is the guy the fake liberals love to quote – but this time they are all ignoring what he said. LOL!
The truth is, had Alvarez recused herself, the City Council would have ended up in a hung jury, with three votes on either side. Neither motion would have succeeded and Alvarez would have avoided a needless censure.
So Alvarez actually punished herself by voting – when she could have dodged the entire mess by abstaining.
Why so many of our local reporters would lose sleep over this drama is a very good question to ponder – especially when those silly fake liberals have avoided writing anything at all about the arrest of Democratic campaign treasurer Kindee Durkee – a far bigger story with much bigger repercussions.
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@ where's junior???,
"Why don’t you take them to task?"
Because it is so much fun bustin' Arts chops about it. I have debated Chris on the Alvarez vote on VOC - we can disagree without being disagreeable - much unlike this blog.
A more interesting question:
Why did Michele Martinez vote against the motion to condemn Claudia's words? Did she prefer more harsh punishment for Alvarez? Did Martinez prefer that she lose her Mayor Pro Tem title?
I think Michele felt it was the right thing to do - I disagree but I respect Martinez for having the brass to make an unpopular vote.
Admin. - "The right thing to do"??
In what respect? WHY did Michele think that was it the right thing to do?
Beats me. I talked to her but could not make any sense of her decision. But that's Michele. She is pretty independent.
She is going to get trounced in her race for 69th Assembly - she should bow out. Labor did not like Alvarez - Michele does not stand a wisp of a chance against "Labor Guy" Perez.
Perez has zero name ID. He is from Anaheim, which is a smash part of the district. He won't have all of labor's support. And what little Anaheim votes exist will be split with Daly. The GOP will likely run a male candidate. That means Michele will be the only female candidate. So yes, her odds aren't too bad. I expect that Perez will come in dead last.
"zero name ID"
While you are at the party for Mexican states this weekend, stop ten or a hundred people and ask them "Who is the local Councilmember for this area"
The voters (the 10 to 15 percent who vote) are given a card from the union telling them who to vote for. I have seen the cards.
If Perez is the name on the card, that is who they will vote for.
I think Alvarez will run for the 69th. Her last election vote total tops Martinez and more importantly tops the votes Jose got in his last run. And there is no Umberg blocking her way. And she blocked having the title MPT taken away and given to Martinez.
Mike Tardif says in a comment above: "we can disagree without being disagreeable"
Oh yes Mike Tardif/junior is the model of civility in the blogs. It is just this blog that is uncivil. (SARCASM)
Lets take a look at some of the civility shown by Mr. Tardif, the owner of Tardif Sheet Metal in Santa Ana, in the past 24 hours.
The following comments were posted by him on the Orange Juice Blog:
So not only have you proven yourself to be uncivil and quite disagreeable, you have once again proven yourself to be quite a bigot Tardif.
First you compared gay marriage to beastiality and now you slur Iranians/Persians. I haven't even touched on your Islamophobic remarks and hatred directed at Muslims.
Anything Claudia Alvarez could say is tame in comparison to your words. I can't believe you had the nerve to get up and attack her. What a hypocrite!
Why do you all care who will be the next guy to violate the law in your name?
Santa Ana city council is exactly like City of Bell council, 100% Mexican not knowing what they voting on and whether or not it is legal.
Such quality of leadership is what makes an environment for corruption.
Only thing you care about is the circus and bread!
Where'sjunior?? said: " I haven’t even touched on your Islamophobic remarks and hatred directed at Muslims."
Well let's see what you've got - spill the beans.
Is there anyone out there who doesn't think think that Iran is a f**ked up country? Maybe we should ask the Iranian people living in the USA rather than in Iran - they voted with their feet.
As far as the tone of my comments - the tone of the entire blog debate was set by Vern Nelson when he set "F**k Sept. 11th" as his title and theme of his article. That pissed me off.
One more thing - f**k you "where'sjunior."
Is this a stupid country or what?
Iran is threatening to boycott of the 2012 London Olympics because it claims the official logo for the games resembles the word "Zion," which is a biblical term for Jerusalem.
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/Iran-threatens-London-boycott-over-racist-Olym?urn=oly-327678