How silly. The O.C. Register, the Voice of OC and that annoying fake liberal blog all lost their minds wondering if it was legal for Santa Ana Mayor Pro Tem Claudia Alvarez to vote for an alternative motion that resulted in her censure, but avoided the far worse fate that Council Members David Benavides and Carlos Bustamante had in mind for her.
Ironically, the Voice of OC’s open government expert, Terry Francke, says there was nothing illegal or unethical about Alvarez’s vote. This is the guy the fake liberals love to quote – but this time they are all ignoring what he said. LOL!
The truth is, had Alvarez recused herself, the City Council would have ended up in a hung jury, with three votes on either side. Neither motion would have succeeded and Alvarez would have avoided a needless censure.
So Alvarez actually punished herself by voting – when she could have dodged the entire mess by abstaining.
Why so many of our local reporters would lose sleep over this drama is a very good question to ponder – especially when those silly fake liberals have avoided writing anything at all about the arrest of Democratic campaign treasurer Kindee Durkee – a far bigger story with much bigger repercussions.
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Alvarez is so damn cute,almost sexy. Her facial expression is like she is holding Jesus after he has been brought down from the cross. She is asking him, Is this all that there is Jesus? People will never understand if they are not graced. And I still forgive them for it. or something similar.
"So Alvarez actually punished herself by voting – when she could have dodged the entire mess by abstaining."..... Hmmmm
Good she deserve it because for the lawyer she is stupid and same as Martinez she always thought that she is above me.
There is old Bohemian cliché: To whom you can't advise to whom you can't help.
It is Cal. Civil Code 47(b) stupida!
I should add that she still can get out of it because you can't vote on an illegal item.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Stanislav Fiala is asking: Are the Esquires Straka, Sarmiento and Alvarez competent attorneys?
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 04:05:48 -0700
From: Standa standa@merlin4x.com
To: Straka, Josef jstraka@ci.santa-ana.ca.us, Alvarez, Claudia calvarez@santa-ana.org, Sarmiento, Vincent vsarmiento@santa-ana.org
CC: Harrelson, Anthony THARRELSON@santa-ana.org, Walters, Paul PWalters@santa-ana.org, Pulido, Miguel MPulido@santa-ana.org, Benavides, David DBenavides@santa-ana.org, Martinez, Michele mimartinez@santa-ana.org, Bustamante, Carlos cbustamante@santa-ana.org, Tinajero, Sal stinajero@santa-ana.org, McGeachy, Douglas DMcGeachy@santa-ana.org
Dear Esquires, Straka, Sarmiento and Alvarez,
My Bohemian advise to you: "It is Cal. Civil Code §47(b) stupid!"
You can't vote on unlawful item, nor substitute motion, as a punitive remedy against Alvarez in violation of her immunity to speak as provided by the Cal. Civil Code 47(b) and protected by the California and United States Constitution.
Therefore, a vote on item 85A is void and nulled.
There is old Bohemian cliché: To whom you can’t advise to whom you can’t help.
Are you gone take this amateurish crapola? See O.C. Register ; Voice of OC.
Thank you!
-Stan
"So Alvarez ... could have dodged the entire mess by abstaining."
No - she would have created a bigger mess for herself if she abstained from voting. She was not going to get away scott free and she knew it.
The B Boys could not come up with four votes under any circumstances. They were lucky that Alvarez didn't abstain. I think Benavides realized that right away. Bustamante still has no clue what happened.
Alvarez clearly voted because she wanted to atone for what she did. Her vote was costly but it was the ethical thing to do.
One can only wonder why the faux libs are avoiding the Durkee story. How many of their pals are involved in this?
It is also interesting to see the Irvine resident completely ignore the story about Mayor Kang joining the Reeps on the council to punk Agran and Krom.
They just can't get past this non-story about Alvarez. They are probably jealous of her because she has bigger balls then both of them combined.
Yep, alvarez had balls, She said "I am sorry" therefor I vote to move on. Now lets make serious budget solutions.
"The B Boys could not come up with four votes under any circumstances."
We do not know that for certain - but I think that Alvarez would have bought herself a heap of serious trouble if she had abstained from voting to condemn her own words.
A moot point as that is how she voted yet her critics are mad that she voted. It is a no win situation.
I would have been mad if she did not vote. At least she condemned her own words - or perhaps she was just trying to avoid more serious punishment.
Who knows? - I don't read others minds and make judgements based on what I think that they are thinking or what I want to make it seem like they are thinking - as does SM.
Hey Tardif why don't you go post this on your buddies Dan and Chris's blog?
They seem to be the only one's belly aching about Claudia voting.
Why don't you take them to task?