Shooting near Proof bar doesn’t mean downtown Santa Ana isn’t safe

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• All people ask is that we support other innocent victims and their family during a time of mourning. It's great that you want to promote your business and what not... but it really just isn't the time RIGHT NOW.

  You posted this so that you can promote and get people to go to Santa Ana for their nightlife and etc. But honestly.. i think BECAUSE of THIS POST.. u made people not want to go there at all. You used your brain to promote during this time, but by reading all these posts I think you can say you just got slapped by not using your heart first.

  I'm sure if your wife and kid got killed in Santa Ana, you wouldn't be promoting Santa Ana saying it was "just a tragedy and it shouldn't stop people from coming and blahblah". You'd probably try to close down all those businesses yourself in fact if ur own family got robbed and murdered.

  Try not to think of these comments as attacks and get so defensive. Try to simply USE your heart God gave you.. you'd understand why everyone is "hating" on you then.

• Are you seriously trying to compare a woman dying from ice skating to a guy who was shot by two thugs? The first was an accident, the latter was murder.

  The point is not that one city is safer than the other. Your article comes off as callous and cold. Kat above me offered her condolences and of course does not want santa ana to suffer as that would affect her business since she sells artwork in downtown santa ana. However, she doesn't come off sounding ignorant and callous. Instead, she says the village will survive and that they will take preventive measure to make sure something like this does not happen again. She's not trying to blame other cities or take the spotlight off of the young man who was shot. You'd have much greater success hocking your city if you sounded like this tragedy had affected you at all.

  It's not about which city is safer or about not wanting santa ana to suffer. It's the tone of your article that bugs most people.

• Maybe if you replaced your article with Kat's comment, you wouldn't piss off so many people and they'd maybe eventually return to downtown santa ana.

• You are truly despicable- not only is your article a total misrepresentation of the true tragedy, but your attitude is just horrific. You glance over what was truly lost that night- a LIFE. Your fear of the nightlife losing its customers is completely absurd when two people wrongfully and cowardly shot and killed another human being. If Santa Ana loses some money over this, SO BE IT. Let the city mourn along with all the victim's family and friends. I'm sure the nightlife would have returned to its normal state after some time, but by ignore the true tragedy and attempting to encourage people to keep coming since this was a "random act of violence" is completely disgraceful to the victim's loved ones. True, it was a random act of violence, bad luck, and life is unfair; but for god sake, stop glancing over this MURDER.

  The city needs to find ways to protect the people- have cameras in the parking structures or security guards patrolling the area. Yes, that will take money, but the people's SAFETY and PROTECTION is rightfully worthy of the extra money. If the downtown nightlife can't provide that, then people should avoid this spot.

  A life was forever lost but this tragedy will forever exist in all of our hearts.

  AND just to clarify, the friend did not run away. I see that you have gotten your information from ABC news and I regret having to say that ABC news was wrong (shouldn't all media portray bullet-proof truth), but you have told the story wrong. The friend did not run away, but rather stayed there and held Jeff as he bled out.

  There's no right in this tragedy at all, but there's no damn use to create more wrong but downplaying this death.

• All they need to do is put security cameras inside the parking structure and around the art district. That will prevent a lot of this type of crime, or at least have evidence if it is committed.

  They already spent so much money trying to revive that area, security cameras aren't going to cost that much more.

• it's a "art district" for Christ sake there shouldn't be a need for security this shyt is deeper then that . it about the haves coming to the have not's honestly put things into perspective its not hard to see the bigger picture

• I bet these killers live in your city. Most criminals will commit to these acts in an an area that they are comfortable with. Its an issue of poverty. Out of the entire orange county region I would like to assume, without any statistical information, that this area is stricken with poverty. Why else would someone kill another human being over the money in your pocket? For fun? If so, more of a reason not to be around "your" town. I hear of the city "trying" but how are they trying? Give me sufficient information where the money invested into the "patrols" and "security" made a difference. Its evident in this case that "all" that "effort" was of no use. Furthermore, how likely are the chances of the killers being caught? None? Do we know what they look like? No. Your city is doing great. Your city cares more about the money than they do of the safety of its people. Pathetic.

• well said Sam Santa Ana is a population of more or less of 300,000 people weather it is Rural Urban or Suburban this goes on a daily bases my heart goes out to the family's that suffer these act's of nonsense i h8 money becuase of the inequalities it causes for alternative solution please check this out i know wer'e a long way from this but stranger things have happened http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

• Wow ...what a stupid article. Are you kidding me? Santa ana is a horrible city to be in once the sun goes down. Someone is always being murdered, robbed, etc. I would rather die fighting on my feet than die on my knees...Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to let good law abiding citizens CCW!!! I'm sure if this man had carried a gun on him he would have had a fighting chance against these scum bags.
  My prayers go out to the family.

• Man, oh man, emotions are high on this one. I would hate to have all of these people realize that they are all in the same room right now. I think that everyone should understand that when they advertise that a city is "horrible when the sun goes down", they are committing an act of violence. Sure, it is said in casual fashion, but it is still ignorant and damaging. That is probably what some people are afraid of when they realize that a violent crime has been publicized in their town. By the way, it is a fact, that Santa Ana is becoming more and more popular after dark. People will keep coming to Santa Ana after dark in order to escape the banality that is Yorba Linda, Buena Park, and Rancho S.M. Never mind "Irvine".