When Santa Ana “Neighborhood Hero” Thomas Gordon tried to run for the Santa Ana City Council, he claimed he would “wipe the floor” with incumbent Sal Tinajero, who is also a very successful public school teacher. But when the filing deadline came, Gordon failed to collect enough verified signatures – and even his own signature was thrown out by the City Clerk. We later caught Gordon texting answers to another Council candidate, Helen Martinez. She lost badly and hasn’t been seen since.
What is Gordon up to now, you ask? Well check out this comment – which he posted on a Voice of OC blog post about the proposed move of the Chivas USA soccer team to Santa Ana:
Regarding neighborhood impact and the loss of the golf course, Tinajero said he understands that some residents would be opposed to the move, but when compared to the number of residents in favor, opponents will seem a small minority.
The opposition “would be outnumbered, in my opinion, nine to one,” Tinajero said.
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Kids want candy or soda or junk food 9 times more than adults do, but as adults we are able to see the cost associated with these things, not just monetarily but the long term impacts such as tooth decay or diabetes.
Los Angeles Unified School Board just voted to ban chocolate and strawberry flavored milk in schools. I’ll bet the kids are against that 99 to 1 as well, but as adults the Board made a decision based on health and long term results.
Guess we elected children to the Santa Ana City Council……..
Not only did Gordon insult all the Latino residents of Santa Ana who would support a pro soccer team – he also insulted our Santa Ana City Council as well – comparing both the residents and the Council to ignorant schoolkids who don’t know what is good for them.
The irony is that Gordon has no college degree – but the Council Members include two attorneys, an engineer, an overpaid Orange County middle manager, a Realtor/Mortfafe banker, a non profit executive, a schoolteacher/award-winning debate team coach. They all have college degrees, unlike Gordon.
Maybe Gordon dislikes them because they are all Democrats – except for the overpaid County middle manager. Gordon is an elected member of the OC GOP Central Committee.
The double-irony is that Gordon works for the L.A. Unified School District, where he is an astoundingly overpaid asbestos inspector. He clearly looks down on the schoolkids whose parents pay his ridiculous union salary.
And this guy is getting a “Neighborhood Hero” award at the Com-Link meeting this week. He ought to be getting a Turkey award!
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I am saying that the specific comments that I cited that you wrote are not substantive. They are personal attacks. Whether he deserves them or not is beside the point. And he probably does deserve them, but that does not make you righteous by saying it.
You would win more opinions over by being civil and kind than you will by being nasty. Let his personal crap go, and focus on the issue, and focus on his arguments on the issues. You can be the bigger man, and do a stellar report on the issues themselves rather than turn it into a personal attack. When you do attack the person, the focus of the issue gets lost in the personal banter. If you really want to make a difference, ignore the personal politics and focus on the points. Then you CAN make a difference because you make people THINK instead of just getting mad at a person. I know Gordon makes you mad. He makes many people mad, but if you really want to make a difference, focus on the topic, not HIM.
Ocgrrl,
I guess he really gets to me because at one time I thought he was going to make a difference. When I first met him he told me he was running for Mayor of Santa Ana. I was desperate for change - I wrote his ballot statement and sent my wife to City Hall with a check for the statement. Within two years he had become another Usual Suspect.
The irony is that we eventually got the change I wanted - and now I am hooked up at City Hall and Gordon and his allies are on the outside looking in.
I grew up with immigrants. My parents were immigrants. I work every day with immigrants and I teach them at Cerritos College. They are not the demons that Gordon and his fellow haters make them out to be.
Santa Ana is a diverse city full of good and bad people. Maligning folks just because of where they come from is just wrong.
I agree completely - 100%. No matter how angry and betrayed you feel by him though, you MUST focus on the issues themselves. The more you let him get to you, the more you get off track to the real issues. You empower him by bringing him up in your blogs! It makes others pay attention to what he is saying because you brought it and his name up. If you must address something he has done or said, just cite the issue and ignore him personally. Don't let those folks goad you into childish banter. Then YOU lose credibility.
ocgrrl,
The irony is that the dumb post has been our top one for two days - even though I have put up at least a dozen other posts. Go figure...
Because you put his name on it...
ocgrrl,
For the record, he put his name on his Voice of OC comment. I would not have touched it if it was just another anon comment.
The post blew up because it was interesting. People like conflict even if they won't admit it.
And don't forget that Gordon is an elected official. He represents the OC GOP - a veritable hate organization.
Roadrunner,
Tommy went to Valley High School. In fact he has never moved out of mommy and daddy's house that he lived in then.
I find it interesting that not one single person showed up on this or any other blog to defend Gordon's statement. They chose instead to launch into ad hominem attacks against Pedroza and Mill. Why is that?
Obviously the comment was indefensible and rather than deal with that Gordon and his friends want to distract attention from it by launching attacks.
All I ask is that somebody defend his comment and do so with some intellectual honesty. Any moron understands the analogy he was making whether he used the words "Mexican" or "Latino" or not.
Anon you are abolutely right. No one will defend Tommy Boy because his comments are indefensible. Tommy Boy's continued attacks on Latinos have only backfired on him and exposed him for the Racist he has always been.
I guess his hatred for minorities stems from not being accepted by minority students at Valley High School. I would like to see pictures of him as a child and teenager and maybe get some insight on his cuckoo behavior. It is very obvious to me that he feels he missed out on being part of the IN-CROWD and his mission is to discredit those who are making a difference in Santa Ana. Tommy Boy can only blame himself for his lack of success, popularity and happiness.
He should leave Santa Ana and move to Arizona where his rantng and raving will be accepted by the morons who live there.
I clicked on a link here to the "Voice of OC" and guess what I found? A comment from El Gordo aka Tommy Boy. He says he's not anti-soccer but against the displacemement of poor hispanic families and he refers to Chavez Ravine. Ah hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Who is he kidding?
These guys are holding on to the last vestige of the Santa Ana they remember.
Sad old men, refusing to accept change.
More remarkable to me is how six angry white republicans were able to invite, accept and influence the Liberal OC to their circle jerk. What pawns.
But admin, Gordon didn't use any racist term and you did in another post You certainly attacked Gordon personally and allowed others to ask why no one is defending him. Then you edit comments or delete them altogether. You put words in Gordon's mouth and have a thin skin when people defend him or give you the same treatment back. Gordon was at the fundraiser for the zoo last night. Were you there? Gordon puts his time and money in to help the city. All you do is blog.
anon,
Gordon most certainly did use a condescending analogy - comparing soccer fans in Santa Ana to schoolchildren at LAUSD who cannot decide for themselves what to drink without adults telling them. Was this overtly racist? Perhaps not but anyone with the ability to read between the lines can easily figure out the point he was making.
No one has yet to even try to defend his analogy. I wonder why?
And no, I did not personally attack Gordon. I used the facts to dissect what he said and to put it in context. He does work at the same school district that those kids go to - the same kids he slammed in his comment. He is an overpaid asbestos inspector. The LAUSD could most certainly save money by outsourcing that work. Those are facts.
His only response was to conduct personal attacks against me over at the Liberal OC blog. Funny that an elected member of the OC GOP Central Committee would be commenting there.
If Gordon wants to slam people on other blogs he ought to be a big boy and defend his attacks. I guess he is unable to do so, nor are his friends.
As for the Zoo function, we promoted it here. In fact 90% of our posts are about events in the city. Perhaps ten percent of our posts have to do with politics. And those posts get 90% of our hits. Go figure.
Gordon ought to, by the way, be able to donate money. He makes a fortune at the LAUSD and he is unmarried and has no kids. Like most of the Usual Suspects he has NO IDEA what it takes to raise a family.