Is the Velvet Lounge engaging in adult entertainment, in violation of their permit?

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• when at a bar and after a few drinks straight people do the same thing that these pictures are illustrating.

• Mr. Briseno this is not a gay or straight issue, it is a legal issue. It appears that they may be violating their CUP by having adult entertainiment. That it is a gay bar is irrelevant.

• "That it is a gay bar is irrelevant."..... Hmmmmm

  You would think so!

  The fact is that gays do enjoy special treatment from liberal governments when it gets to public display of sexuality.

  As a European I can handle much more sexual openness but in Europe it is cross the board. Meaning that there is heterosexual Red Light district too.

• Irrelevant.... about gay or straight.....this is a RED LIGHT DISTRICT. and regrettable the Downtown Inc is promoting this kind of so call NEW Businees.

  Thanks Michell Martinez, you want entertainment for young people this is your work well done.

  • You can't pin this on Michele. All the Council Members voted to allow these C.U.P.s But it should be noted that Mayor Pro Tem Claudia Alvarez was worried that the Velvet Lounge was going to be engaging in adult entertainment. It looks like she was prescient.

• I believe "gabacha's" point is.............The council besides Councilwoman Alvarez is reluctant to eliminate the PBID, which through Downtown Inc., is encouraging and promoting this business, the Yost crowd that promotes illegal pot and other similar venues while discougaging the existing Hispanic family business district.

  This reluctance is on top of not protecting the city's downtown property owners from a unconstitutional tax. Something they swore to do when they took office.

  It is simple other arguments are irrelevant.

• "Irrelevant…. about gay or straight…..this is a RED LIGHT DISTRICT."...... Hmmmmm

  There is nothing wrong with the RED LIGHT DISTRICT. Santa Ana should have one. I have openly promoted it in my 2004, 2006 and 2008 mayoral race.

  It will be irrelevant when I see some chick there too.

  As is, it is Momo's Sodoma y Gomorra.

• Actually not long ago a bar in downtown had strippers show up out of nowhere and give lap dances to patrons.
  It was a straight bar.
  Those boobs on that drag queen are fake and if you've ever actually been to a gay bar you would know that this is normal. You would probably have a heart attack if you went to hamburger mary's.

• "You would probably have a heart attack if you went to hamburger mary’s"....... Hmmmmm

  Obviously you do not understand my point, Carlos!

  My point is that I do not like homo sex preferential treatment.

  I am for equal opportunity..... do you understand that?

  What happened to that straight bar?.... Huh?

  Shut down?..... homo bar would be still open because we can't discriminate against homos only against straight.

• Hey.. Your right.. It's not a Homosexual Issue. But Homo's have to go party somewhere .. Why not in SA? There's no accountability in that City. Just look at all of the illegal Street Vendors who are selling knockoff merchandise, Gardeners, Babysitters, House cleaners, not paying taxes.. The overcrowding in the housing? Oh.. I forgot the Gangs. But a survey claims it's a safe City. Safe as Irvine they say.. But where would you live given those surveys? Yup.. I thought so. A Homosexual Lounge is buy far this Cities greatest problem. It's Ciyt Pfficals are always playing the blame game.. The Mayor & City Manager/ Police Chief are ripping all they can to fatten their benefits and pensions.. Look and see what ridiculous pay and benefits they all are getting as the city goes down the drain. If it wasn't for the Federal grants, SA would of folded years ago. That's why they welcome the illegals.. The children free education and all other programs are tossed around like it's free $$. The waste of food and our $$ is not accounted for. Remember the SAUSD promise that if we fed the kids their grades would show improvement? Well? Lets see it? No improvement last time I checked. Noticed how they didn't show us the result after? This is whT I'm saying. They ask for $$ then no one noes where it went or if we got what was promised!

• what gets me about this article is the fact that this person went to a lot of trouble to wright this article in the first place. you said that the photo's tell the story better than you can? take a closer look at the photos and the angle in which they are taken. photo's lie, if these photos were three denominational this article would not have been written. in the first photo a guy is being tipped in his shorts which are bicycle shorts and it's on his hip, but from the angle it was taken it looks like his front, but it's not it is definitely his hip. if you enlarge the photo you will see that. the second photo there just taking a photo together. the third photo are two men that look like there dancing together letting loose and expressing themselves, it's an in between shot, meaning it was taken in between motion. who is to say that the guy bent over didn't trip or fall and the other guy was helping him up when the photo was snapped. think about it. the fourth photo all though racy it's clear it's a fake breast plate and a Halloween costume, and the last photo, is someone who just got sprinkled with confetti by someone standing over them who looks like there getting ready to step over the person who is lying down. btw the confetti in the photo is made of mylar which when thrown or dropped floats and takes a few seconds to hit the ground, again another in between shot. there is nothing wrong here there just photo's they tell many stories, you need to think of what happened before the photos were taken and what happened after. your just trying to make people think is wrong so you can get a business shut down, and if being a gay bar is not one of the issues here then why do you keep bringing up the fact that it is a gay bar, if you have ever been there you will find that it is an everybody bar not just a gay bar they don't discriminate like you have done with this useless article.
  you should be ashamed of your self for being so negative, closed and narrow minded, you come across as extremely ignorant. you need to educate yourself before you start to pass judgment on something you know nothing about.

  • I didn't take those photos. They were on the Velvet Lounge website.