How will the PBID affect two new Downtown Santa Ana businesses?

Not the Quinciniera store…

Tim O’Connor, one of the owners of Downtown Santa Ana’s Chapter One: the Modern Local restaurant, recently opined at a Santa Ana City Council meeting that there are too many quinciniera shops in the area.  Here is how he was quoted in the pages of the OC Weekly:

“This is specifically for most of the stuff on Fourth Street,” O’Conner remarked, even though he was addressing the City Council and not a Chamber of Commerce meeting. “You can’t have the same shop, the same stores, the same exact same quinceanera shop across from the exact same quinceañera shop…exact same thing over and over again and expect to be successful. Times have changed. Fourth Street should change with those times.”

I visited Downtown Santa Ana’s monthly Art Walk last night – and stumbled across both a new dress shop – that, you guessed it, did indeed offer quinciniera dresses – and a new costume store called OUTrageous Costumes and Couture, owned by Archer Alstaetter, the promoter of Santa Ana’s East End, which used to be called the Fiesta Marketplace.  How do you think the two shops compared?  The answer may not be what O’Conner would expect!

I first stopped in at Elegante Formals, on 312 1.2 W. 4th St.  It is located west of Broadway.  As you can see in the picture above, the owner, Irma Martinez, took a lot of care in merchandising the front window display.

Here is how Archer’s store front appeared:

And here is his store sign:

Now, to be fair we must keep in mind that both of these ventures are brand new, and Archer has been working overtime booking musical acts and doing the marketing for the East End.  But obviously the dress store is a lot more…finished.

Let’s take a look at, for example, how there stores display their merchandise.  Here’s Archer’s store:

And here is Irma’s store:

Irma also offered a tasty array of fancy sweets for her guests:

The haters malign Mexican Americans who dare open businesses in Downtown Santa Ana.  Then they tax these brave souls, via the PBID, and give that money to the well-heeled gabachos so they can promote their bars and restaurants.  Is that fair?  Or should the PBID be voluntary, especially given the way former Santa Ana City Manager Dave Ream rigged the PBID vote?

Here’s Irma and her aunt, who owns a wedding shop in Downtown Santa Ana.  They will be paying into the PBID, but will they get anything out of it?

And here is Archer, the PBID’s promoter – yes, he has a lot to smile about, doesn’t he?

How will these two new downtown Santa Ana businesses fare?  That is hard to say.  Archer should do well this month with folks looking for Halloween costumes.  He explained to me that he has had businesses before – and you have to wonder if the landlord, Irv Chase, is charging Archer any rent.

Irma is new to business but she is a creative wonder – and she has her aunt’s steady hand to guide her.  I would not bet against her!  What O’Connor doesn’t seem to comprehend is that these businesses thrive in downtown Santa Ana because that is what the customers want.

I visited Chapter One, by the way, when Councilwoman Michele Martinez held her first Assembly campaign fundraiser there.  The appetizers were pretty good, particularly since there were a few that were vegetarian.  Not sure I will go there to have dinner as I cook most of the food my family eats.  And given O’Connor’s attitude towards Latino businesses, I don’t think I want to spend any money there.

By the way, I have nothing against Archer or the PBID – but I do think that the only fair thing to do would be to put the PBID to a new, fair vote.  Until we do that the questions will remain and there will be no justice.

Art Pedroza Editor
Our Editor, Art Pedroza, worked at the O.C. Register and the OC Weekly and studied journalism at CSUF and UCI. He has lived in Santa Ana for over 30 years and has served on several city and county commissions. When he is not writing or editing Pedroza specializes in risk control and occupational safety. He also teaches part time at Cerritos College and CSUF. Pedroza has an MBA from Keller University.
Art Pedroza

Our Editor, Art Pedroza, worked at the O.C. Register and the OC Weekly and studied journalism at CSUF and UCI. He has lived in Santa Ana for over 30 years and has served on several city and county commissions. When he is not writing or editing Pedroza specializes in risk control and occupational safety. He also teaches part time at Cerritos College and CSUF. Pedroza has an MBA from Keller University.

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  • "I do think that the only fair thing to do would be to put the PBID to a new, fair vote."

    Would your idea of a fair vote include the City voting as a property owner?

    Would your fair vote include a specified structure of how PBID monies are to be spent between promoting the daytime stores (quinciniera shops) and the art/entertainment/restaurant businesses?

    • Ream did a poor job of notifying business owners about the vote.

      I am also not a fan if how the PBID board is selected.

      You're a Republican Tardif. Don't you people believe in letting businesses make their own marketing decisions? The current PBID is a wealth redistribution system.

  • Adminstration thank you , finally someone is looking into what the PBID IS for the small property owners, The promoter is getting paid to promoted the downtown bussiness and now he is in bussiness , what a great oportunity for few selective people from DTI , I will said is a big conflict for DTI..\they should start looking for a new promoter..

    Tomorrow DTI will present their budget, please look at the agenda and dont be suprise how they spend our money. 401K, general supplies, regular suplies, accountant services and payroll services, ect ect ect......

  • Admin - On this issue you and I probably agree more than disagree. There seems to be a lot of inequity in the PBID.

  • I and my Mexican wife agree that this imbroglio will be decided by shopping public.

    We also agreed that this is Latino downtown and no one will change it by way of merchandising on the 4Th St.

    The only way the downtown can be changed is by increasing safety and purpose for people to go there.

    Never in our family anyone ever said lets go downtown Santa Ana.

    However, in last ten years we would many, many times spontaneously decide to go to the Blocks in Orange.

    In 1995 I was owner of two bedroom condo on 4Th St. past French St. It did not worked out for us. Too many gang parties, broken glass in swimming pool, typical Latino thrush. My wife's family visiting from Mexico City were fright to stay there as visitors.

    So within 6 month we moved.

    Now even this place on Sunflower, next to South Coast Plaza, is becoming Latino thrush.

    Too many families in single delving, too many cars gatcha and car vandalism.... ect.

  • PBID is a real property tax.

    The retail business don't pay it. Does anyone not understand? The retail business don’t pay PBID.

    You can say they do pay it in their rents, but the landlords have been raising the rents on their renters for decades before the PBID came about.

    Why not do a story on sad case of affairs before PBID? Two Mexican American cultural organizations fighting to control the parades and festivals. Everyone was blaming someone else for the problems of filth and security. So the city took the bull by the horns and fixed it.

    • Ream cooked up the PBID so that he could enrich his pals and take the city off the hook for downtown security and cleanup. Classic Ream.

  • We should be proud that Archer chose Santa Ana to open his Quinceanera shop. Now we have one more. When is Downtown going to get a healthy/organic foods market. So Admin. can cook me some free range shrimp scampi?

  • That empty furniture store on corner of first and sycamore in the heart of the artists village would be a perfect location for a healthy foods market!!! Sean Mill sits on planning Board. Would that not be a good idea to facilitate? I'll make him a personal plaque or fountain in his honor.

  • Umm, O.k. let me check my pockets. Investors? Are you in there investors? Check your pockets Doofus!

  • Let's call Wall Street. I hear they have some doooshbag investors over there. Sorry, I don't dooosh. and don't know how to spell DOOOOOOSHBAG Capitalistic, Parasitic, no talent, society destroyong INVESTORS. Even Archer makes his own Quinseanera dresses which is far more than can be said for dooooshbag investors!

  • hey mr. "douchebag" mateo,

    Without investors you would not have a place to live or food to eat or an internet to spew your douchebaggery.

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