Poll: Should we finish the Santiago Creek bike trail in Fisher Park?

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• I agree. The Light (public) will drive out the Darkness along this section of the creek like it has done elsewhere where trails have established.

  I am very dissapointed that the City Manager has directed the City Staff to perform a feasability study to fence off this section of the creek on both ends so homeowners such as Mark McLaughlin and Noah Apodaca can make their neighboorhoods private gated communities along the county creek. We should not be spending taxpayer dollars to conduct studies and allocate funding to fence out (exclude) the public so private homeowners drawing salary's from the public can have exclusive use of the creek.

  Instead, an Inclusive approach should be used like rest of the creek which has improved the communities. There are groups of volunteers willing to clean up the creek and instead,some homeowners have had their Lawyers take steps to prevent them.

• "We should not be spending taxpayer dollars to conduct studies and allocate funding to fence out (exclude) the public so private homeowners drawing salary’s from the public can have exclusive use of the creek."...... Hmmmmm

  That is what happens when you allow SAPD Chief Walters to be City Manager and Mr. Mill planing commissioner.

  Total stupidity and back to jungle development becomes prevalent.

  • Mill has nothing to do with this. As far as I know, he supports the trail proposal.

• My only hope is that Mayor Pulido and City Manager Paul Walters make the right decisions that benefit the majority and not the wealthy influential few living in the Fisher Park neighborhood on the south side of the creek. It is well known that the Mayor and Mark McLaughlin are good friends, but I believe Mayor Pulido will eventually support completion of the Santiago Creek Bike Trail through the Fisher Park neighborhood. In my initial contact with him on the phone, he was very supportive of completing the trail and made the statement that the trail would be beneficial to not only Santa Ana but to other county residents as well. He also acknowledged that his support of the trail would probably lose him some votes, but he said he was willing to endure that loss.

• "the Fisher Park portion of Santiago Creek – a self-inflected nightmare."

  What the f**k are you talking about, typical Pedroza stance, you KNOW LESS THAN NOTHING yet make stupid blanket statements.
  I've lived on Santiago creek for over twenty years and it is anything but a "nightmare", people walk their dogs, families come through exploring and yes, there are teenagers, but they're usually just having fun too.
  Santiago Creek as it is now, is a teeney tiny bit of wilderness in the city and these bikers want to cut down all the trees and pave it over so they can speed from Villa Park to the beach, meanwhile poor little Jack Fischer Park will become a thoroughfare for speeding bikers and Santiago creek will be ruined forever.

  Now go ahead and censor me.

• anonster, you are kidding, right?

• Cook,

  Yes, anonster's response was quite rude.

  I don't think she understood what I wrote.

• I understood you perfectly Art, you're trying to portray the Fisher Park portion of the creek bed as a "nightmare" of crime and graffiti and if it was just opened up to the public there wouldn't be any problems there. That's a great argument except for the fact that it is TOTALLY FALSE.
  EVERYDAY all over Santa Ana there is crime and graffiti happening, the ONLY difference is that the city which does NO MAINTENANCE in the creek bed, NEVER goes down and removes the graffiti, all of Santa Ana would look like that wall if they didn't paint over or remove the graffiti everyday. In other words, there is no more crime and graffiti happening in that creek bed than anywhere else in Santa Ana.
  And as for trash in the creek bed, everytime it rains, trash comes rushing down on top of the water and when the creek dries up the trash that was on top is left, 95% of the trash comes from upstream, that will NEVER change nor will it suddenly be cleaned up if only we allow bikers from Villa Park and Orange to speed through.

  • Why then is there so much graffiti in the Fisher Park creek area as compared to the Santiago Park area?

• Because they probably remove it. Why is there so much "cruising" at Santiago Park and very little at Jack Fisher?
  And I apologize for being rude.

• We love the existing single track trail that is in place now. We will continue to use it, whether it develops into a paved trail or even if it is gated off. We will access this public space and use it!

  • I wouldn’t advise anyone to ride a bike through the Fisher Park dirt path. It is rocky and dangerous!

• That is because it's a footpath, I repeat, a FOOTPATH, NOT a bike trail!

  Commuter, I wonder how much you'll love the footpath when they've removed all the trees and paved it over?