The disaster that is Fisher Park’s stretch of Santiago Creek
UPDATE: Now YOU can vote to support the completion of the portion of the Santiago Creek bike trail that runs through Santa Ana’s Fisher Park neighborhood. Click here to vote!
Did the Fisher Park NIMBYs who are blocking the completion of the Santiago Creek bike trail ruin their own neighborhood? It is a fair question to ask.
If you visit the Santiago Creek bike train in Santiago Park – or over at the Santiago Park Nature Reserve, you won’t see the horrible graffiti that is sprayed all over the place in the Fisher Park Neighborhood. Sure, you will find isolated tagging, but nothing like the disaster at Fisher Park.
And now, according to my sources, the Fisher Park NIMBYs, led by Rancho Santiago Community College District Trustee Mark McLaughlin and Chapman University Professor Paul Apodaca, want to fence off their part of the creek altogether – as if that will be some sort of panacea!
Don’t take my word for it – compare the picture above this paragraph to the one atop this post, and then check out the slideshow at this link. That is the mess at the Fisher Park portion of Santiago Creek – a self-inflected nightmare. The cops cannot patrol the area. Bike riders cannot ride through there. All you have is gang bangers and other criminals – and they would not be there if the trail was completed as it is in Santiago Park – and in Hart Park, over in Orange.
Here is what you will see at the Santiago Park portion of the Santiago Creek bike trails (the one on the north is paved while the one on the south side of the creek is just dirt.
Fisher Park
Santiago Park
The Santiago Creek Greenway Alliance has been working for many years to create a greenway along the Santiago Creek. They have a plan that you can read by clicking here. The plan is almost done – except for the small portion of Santiago Creek at Fisher Park, where the NIMBYs seem incapable of doing the right thing.
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Admin,
I have seen an uptick in anon comments here.
Over at the Liberal OC blog, they frown and ridicule that. Anominity is reserved for sending unwanted packages and threating letters.
Get with it man.
LOL!
You may find it funny, but it's the TRUTH (something you're not too familiar with). In fact I learned about it from one the walks the bike trail advocates hosted, the son of the man who owned that particular piece of land told us about it.
You were fed a load of B.S.
No Art, what you dish out here is B.S.
The Usual Suspects got away with these shenanigans for years. Well, they no longer have four votes on the Council. The bike trail is going to happen, whether you like it it not.
You guys are crazy. It is only rocky for 20 feet. Carry your bike and ride an awesome single track!
Get on a bike and experience life!
Art, the property owners live in Floral Park, on Riverside dr. and their property line cross the creek to the other side. I don’t think any property owners on the Fisher Park side property lines reach the creek in that area.
Here is a link to the city zoning map, you can increase the size of this huge map to get a good idea how the 7 properties on Riverside Ln crossover the creek, I am not sure if any of the properties on Park Ln in this area of Fisher park reach the creek.
http://www.ci.santa-ana.ca.us/pba/documents/general_plan_map.pdf
Of the over hundred properties that boarder the creek from Broadway to the Santa Ana river, all see the creek as a public flood control channel / creek owned and maintained by the government, except for all or some of the seven properties between Broadway and Flower.
Anonster, You must not be one of the 7.
Quote “Santiago Creek is overseen by MANY DIFFERENT AGENCIES the County, the City, Fish and Game, Flood Control and probably the Army Corp of Engineers”
These are the words of someone who sees the creek as a public easement and not as personal private property.
What would people think if I blocked off N Broadway? Holding a piece of paper that say my property line goes to the middle of the street, screw the easement, get off my lawn.
Ahh, so now all the "usual suspects" live on the creek bed, where for years they've been plotting and planning ways to foil the bike path, even going so far as convince the contractors who were working on the I-5 to bring in rocks to keep out the unwashed hordes.
You're absurd.
Silly anonster. You just don't get it. These people no longer lord over our city.
cook,
Do you see ANY impediments to city/county trucks or to the public in the creek bed?
I was in the creek bed last weekend and I didn't see a single fence or sign, nothing has changed.
If the agencies that maintain the creek wanted to clean it up they could, nothing is stopping them, except most likely, BUDGETARY restraints.
Again, you are in the dark. Nasty letters have been sent by lawyers retained by the NIMBYs to groups that do clean-ups, warning them off. This is exactly the situation the NIMBYs want, to build a case for fencing off the creek. The City Council isn't going to fall for this B.S.!
Anonster,
The impediments are legal arguments put forth by the 7 property owners on Riverside Dr that start at the end of the park (Fisher Park) to go to the 5 freeway.
These property owners who's homes are on the south side of the creek maintain that the north side of the creek is also their property, and that the creek itself is part of their backyards.
If you are not one of those 7, you can not understand their reasoning.
What is funny is the college professor holding his deed in his hand as proof of his ownership. If he would read further on his property deed in the CC&R’s he would see that there is a restrictions on who can own property there, and since he is not white, his deed says he can’t own the property at all.
So just because something is in writing, doesn’t always make it legal and binding.
Art P, look it up in your deed, it should have the same restrictions for the Park Santiago area.
"and since he is not white, his deed says he can’t own the property at all."....... Hmmmmm
I think we should start enforcing these deeds. That would make Art changing his heritage quickly.
No one can change their heritage. It is what it is.
"No one can change their heritage. It is what it is"..... Hmmmmm
Since I know you Art, about from 2002 you have claim to be every race White, Indian, Black, Jew and Alien.
However, you have never upheld you rainbow heritage by simply say I am an American.
I am not one to repeat the obvious. And you should be the last one to take umbrage at a mixed heritage. As a bohemian you know full well what that is about amigo. How many times was Czechoslovakia/Bohemia overrun throughout history?