Are two downtown Santa Ana businesses going to violate city code tonight?

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• I suspect the potential for money to be made far outweighs the price of a citation. Any chance any of these folks bithered to ask for an exemption? Are they even available?

  • They did not ask for exceptions to their C.U.P. In the case of Proof this could be very costly as they are asking for a permanent change to their C.U.P. This sort of behavior undermines their case and will make it difficult for them to get a variance.

• I thought the city dumped the ban on dancing awhile back?

  Now get with the program Footloose.

  • There is no ban on dancing. But if your C.U.P. doesn't allow it your only avenue is to pursue a variance or some other sort of exception. That didn't happen in this case.

    If this were a Mexican owned business violating city code the Usual Suspects would be screaming about it.

    The city needs to hold ALL businesses equally accountable to the terms of their C.U.P.'s!

• 2513 w edinger la pachanga bar and grill need to have city officials visit that place 100% corrupted he has girls stripping to customers has ilegal gambling he even has to cash registers so he dont have to pay taxes
  he even has cats and dogs living there and they allow smoking in the bar..this place even serves beer after 2 am...reason for posting this is that my mother got burned from the owner for a full weeks check....

  • Well I agree that we can't have cats and dogs smoking in bars. Don't worry - this blog is read by many city officials. I am sure they will follow up on this.

• You mean they are in violation the same way you are running a business from your home without benefit of a business license and Home Occupation Permit?

  • It's a New Year and you're already stalking me? I have both a license and a home occupation permit.

• I checked, and your Home Occupation Permit is only good for the Orange Juice Blog - nothing else. So if you are running a new blog for profit, or doing other business other than internet blogging, you would need a new Home Occupation Permit, and a new business license (which City staff could not find for me).

  • I have documents that prove I shut down the OJ account, back when I sold it to Vern. And I have licenses for my other businesses.

    You are an unmitigated stalker and thank God the staffer you talked to couldn't figure out how to find my records.

    By the way, you always post as ocgrrl - what is this Marty name you are using now? Just who are you?

• thanks for the responce art..I hope this place gets hit by code enforcement they run a 100% illegal bar and allows smoking by customers and it stays open after hours for meth users
  2513 w. endinger
  la panchanga bar and grill

• Hey Admin,

  Proof had its C.U.P. amended long ago to allow for a cover charge. Consequently, we still strive to keep our nights free, which is probably why you haven't seen us advertise a cover. An understandable mistake.

  Can you please confirm and reflect this fact? Preferably as an update, but in the interest of fairness and accuracy, I would consider a reply sufficient.

  cheers

  • Did you get a variance also to allow dancing?

• It's footloose all over again!! Get a life and have a drink. stiffs.

• In the interest of respect and professionalism, I will ask again that you print or post a correction to your error.

  Thank You.

  • No problem but you should know that I ran the story by the Planning Agency. Their answer was apparently wrong.

    But you didn't answer my question. Did your variance allow dancing? Please answer that so that I can amend the story.

• "Did your variance allow dancing?"..... Hmmmmmmm

  This is one more reason why Santa Ana sucks!

  With these kind of variances I am not surprised that Sean Mill likes to be on the Planing commission.

  I bet that he is incapable of dancing.

  • Sean has run 37 miles this week. How about you Stanley?